ახალი მსოფლიო წესრიგის მოზაიკა – ანალიტიკოსის თვალით. . .

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rogori iqneba axali msoflio wesrigi, politikur saWadrako dafaze vin ra svlas gaakeTebs, ra procesebi viTardeba saerTaSoriso arenaze da ganviTarebis ra gzebi isaxeba saqarTvelosTvis? es kiTxvebi profesional analitikosTa pasuxebs moiTxovs. amjerad am Temaze sasaubrod politologi gela iremaZe moviwvieT.
– rogor afasebT aSS-is prezidentis bolodroindel gadawyvetilebebs sagareo politikaSi?
– donald trampis politika saerTaSoriso arenaze Zalian xisti qmedebebiT gamoirCeva. is cdilobs Tanamedrove saerTaSoriso urTierTobebSi Zireuli reformebis ganxorcielebas da es Cans rogorc CineTTan, ise evropaSi mimdinare im procesebTan mimarTebaSi, romlebic ar Sedis aSS-is interesebSi. kerZod, es exeba ekonomikur sakiTxebs da sagadasaxado valdebulebebs. rogorc cnobilia, aSS-ma gazarda gadasaxadi evrokavSirTan mimarTebiT, analogiurad moiqca evrokavSiri aSS-sTan dakavSirebiT, anu sagadasaxado da satarifo omi mimdinareobs aSS-evrokavSirs Soris.
– sxvaTa Soris, analitikosebi acxadeben, rom gardauvlad daiZabeba urTierToba aSS-sa da evrokavSirs Soris natos dafinansebis sakiTxze. . .
– diax, uaxloes momavalSi, savaraudod, Ria konfrontaciaa mosalodneli natosTan mimarTebiT, gamomdinare iqidan, rom natos umeteswilad aSS afinansebs, rac trampis administraciisTvis miuRebelia. amitom aSS-is prezidentma mkafio gancxadeba gaakeTa da aliansis wevrebs am mxriv dafinansebis gazrdisken mouwoda, raTa uzrunvelyofili iyos maTi usafrTxoeba. aseve, ar unda dagvaviwydes msgavsi gancxadebebi evropeli liderebisgan, vgulisxmob evrokavSiris umaRles warmomadgenels da safrangeTis prezidents. vfiqrob, aSS-is prezidentTan mimarTebiT maT sifrTxile marTebT, radgan trampis gancxadebebis, qmedebebis gaanalizeba Zalian rTulia. aRsaniSnavia isic, rom trampi Seecdeba gadatvirTvis politikis warmarTvas CineTTan da im saxelmwifoebTan, romelTac aSS-is wina administracia partniorad ar miiCnevda. samwuxarod, am konteqstSive unda ganvixiloT ruseT-aSS-is molaparakebebi ruseT-ukrainis omTan dakavSirebiT.
– ra mizans isaxavs ruseTi am mimarTebiT?
– ukve meoTxe welia, omi mimdinareobs. ukrainam SeZlo saxelmwifoebriobis SenarCuneba, rac ukrainelTa Tavdadebisa da dasavleTis mxardaWeris Sedegia, Tumca ukrainis gasamarjveblad koleqtiurma dasavleTma qmediTi nabijebi ver/ar gadadga, rasac Tavisi subieqturi Tu obieqturi mizezebi gaaCnia. . . kremls Tu mieca saSualeba, ukrainas daanawevrebs, satelit qveynad gadaaqcevs, amitom Tu axla ar SeaCereben ruseTs, safrTxe ukve baltiispireTis qveynebsac daemuqreba. amas dasavleTSi kargad acnobiereben. rogorc cnobilia, trampis dapireba iyo am omis SeCereba, am ramdenime dRis ganmavlobaSi vnaxeT umaRlesi donis Sexvedrebi saudis arabeTSi da ukrainis prezidentis viziti aSS-Si, ovalur kabinetSi. . . vfiqrob, zelenskis mouwevs im rekomendaciebis Sesruleba, romlebic zogadad, trampis gegmebSia, magram vimedovneb, rom amiT ukrainis saxelmwifos suvereniteti da teritoriuli mTlianoba ar Seilaxeba. savaraudod, arsebuli situaciidan gamomdinare, ukrainas mouwevs garkveuli kompromisuli SeTanxmeba ruseTTan da, aseve, amerikis SeerTebul StatebTan. kerZod, es exeba iseT sakiTxs, rogoricaa wiaRiseuli resursi, romelic ukrainas gaaCnia. saubaria ramdenime aseul miliard dolarze, romelic unda gadaeces aSS-s. sentenciad qceuli es frazac gvaxsenebs Tavs: `omi damTavrda – mSvidobis geSinodeT~. gaaCnia, es mSvidoba vis sasikeTod imoqmedebs. ukve orive mxare gamoTqvams omis dasrulebisTvis mzaobas. jerjerobiT am mxriv detalebi ar gaJRerebula. savaraudod, am ramdenime dReSi samSvidobo SeTanxmeba gaformdeba mxareebs Soris, aseve, ukrainaSi saprezidento arCevnebi Catardeba da legitimaciis sakiTxic aRar iqneba kiTxvis niSnis qveS.
– Tqven `gadatvirTvis politika~ axseneT, rogorc cnobilia, am politikam adre didad ar gaamarTla, yovel SemTxvevaSi, swored obamas prezidentobis periodSi miaRwia kremlma sagareo politikaSi warmatebas. ras fiqrobT?
– Tavis droze obamas administraciam ganaxorciela `gadatvirTvis politika~ ruseTTan mimarTebiT, samwuxarod, am politikam ar gaamarTla. ruseTis ndoba ar SeiZleba, magram trampis administraciam ruseTTan dakavSirebiT kvlav es gza arCia. vnaxoT, ra da rogor moxdeba. . . msoflioSi mimdinare movlenebi, garkveulwilad, moiTxovs im qveynebTan TanamSromlobas, romelTac birTvuli iaraRi gaaCnia. trampi wina administraciisgan gamoirCeva ufro saqmiani unarebiT. igi, albaT, klintonis Semdeg, ufro loialuria ruseTTan mimarTebiT. yovel SemTxvevaSi, uaxloes momavalSi unda velodoT umaRlesi donis Sexvedras trampsa da putins Soris, sadac imsjeleben msoflios gadanawilebaze. unda iTqvas, rom saerTaSoriso urTierTobebis sistema dRes ar arsebobs. es samwuxaro realobaa, vinaidan arsebulma procesebma  saerTaSoriso urTierTobis sistemis ngreva gamoiwvia. faqtobrivad, saerTaSoriso samarTali, saxelmwifos suvereniteti, gaeros roli aris dakninebuli da seriozul problemas warmoadgens. am problemis saTave iyo 2007 wlis movlena, roca dasavleTma kosovo aRiara damoukidebel saxelmwifod. aseve, aRsaniSnavia sxva fataluri Secdomebi, romlebic msoflio Tanamegobrobam dauSva da dRes am samwuxaro realobas imkian mowyvladi saxelmwifoebi, maT Soris, Cveni qveyana – teritoriuli mTlianobis rRvevidan gamomdinare.
– ras gulisxmobT?
– garkveulwilad, dasavleTis pasiurobam da ruseTis mimarT argaRizianebis politikam gamoiwvia ukrainis omi. im periodSi rom dawesebuliyo realuri sanqciebi da ruseTi srul izolaciaSi moeqciaT, savaraudod, ruseTi ver gabedavda ukrainaze Tavdasxmas. udavoa isic, rom buqarestis natos samitze saqarTvelosTvis da ukrainisTvis mapi rom mieniWebinaT, ruseTi ver gabedavda agresias saqarTvelos mimarT. samwuxarod, maSin koleqtiurma dasavleTma ruseTis interesebi gaiTvaliswina, ramac Cveni qveyana mniSvnelovnad daazarala.
– axla Cvens qveyanazec visaubroT, sagareo kuTxiT ra Secdomebi davuSviT?
– Secdomebi mravlad iyo. qarTvel politikosebs cotaTi civi gonebiT rom gaeanalizebinaT regionSi mimdinare procesebi da saxelmwifoebrivad emoqmedaT, qveyana bevr gansacdels aicilebda Tavidan. rogorc mosalodneli iyo, ruseTma isargebla Cveni SecdomebiT da jer samoqalaqo omSi CagvrTo, mere ki Cveni teritoriebic miiTvisa. am agresiis mizani qarTuli saxelmwifoebriobis mospobaa, rac ruseTisgan arcaa gasakviri… es qveyana ver egueba mezobeli qveynebis suverenitets, risi magaliTebia saqarTvelo da ukraina.
– qarTulma mxarem ra unda gaakeTos okupirebuli teritoriebis deokupaciis TvalsazrisiT?
– unda daanaxos afxazebs da osebs, Tu raoden didia Cveni miRwevebi, Rirebulebebi, demokratia da ramdenad mniSvnelovania socialuri da ekonomikuri modeli, romelsac vqmniT. am mxriv, cxadia, umTavresia Cveni demokratiulobis xarisxi, swored am mimarTebiT aqvT Cvens mokavSireebs SeniSvnebi… ver vityvi, rom Cveni qveyana evropuli yaidis saxelmwifoa da es arcaa gasakviri, radgan evropuli saxelmwifoebi damoukidebelni iyvnen, maT suverenitets meore msoflio omis Semdeg aravin zRudavda, Tu ar CavTvliT socialisturi banakis qveynebs. axals arafers vityvi Tu aRvniSnav, rom mimdinareobs axali msoflio wesrigis formireba, am mxriv, Cven goniereba gvmarTebs, ar unda gaviWylitoT zesaxelmwifoTa interesebis WidilSi, Cveni interesebi maqsimalurad unda davicvaT.
– cxadia, rom saqarTvelos momavali sazogadoebisa da politikuri partiebis Tanxmobaze gadis da ara urTierTdapirispirebaze. . .
– Cvens geostrategiul regionSi aucilebelia stabilurobis SenarCuneba, radgan arakeTilmosurneebma, SesaZloa, Cveni areulobiT isargeblon, SegaxsenebT arcTu Soreuli istoriis samwuxaro faqts – swored saxelmwifo gadatrialebis Sedegad wagvglija ruseTma afxazeTi da cxinvalis regioni. amitom saqarTvelosTvis mniSvnelovania Sida stabiluroba, gasacnobierebel-gasaTavisebelia is, rom amgvari safrTxe namdvilad ar emuqreba evrokavSiris wevr saxelmwifoebs.