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axlaxan, mkiTxvelma ixila saintereso wigni saxelwodebiT – `nagomridan levilamde~, romlis avtori, mwerali avTandil beriSvili, saarqivo, dokumenturi wyaroebisa da piradi mimowerebis momarjvebiT, Tvalwin gadagviSlis levilel emigrantTa cxovrebas. . . wignis gmirebi istoriuli pirovnebebi arian, cnobili da aqamde ucnobi levilelebi. . . avtorma maT axali sicocxle SesZina. vrceli dokumentur-mxatvruli nawarmoebi yuradRebas ipyrobs mTavari personaJiT – igi nagomridan iZulebiT gadaxvewili maTe bolqvaZea, SemdegSi levilelTa farsa da maxvils rom uwodebdnen. ras warmoadgens es wigni, rogor Seasxa frTebi avtorma Tavis mizansa da Canafiqrs, amaze dRes Tavad gvesaubreba.
– gilocavT, Tqvenma wignma warmatebiT daiwyo mogzauroba mkiTxvelTa samyaroSi. ram STagagonaT, levileli qarTvelebis cxovrebis Sesaxeb mogeTxroT?
– am wignze muSaobas TiTqmis sami weli movandome. maxsovs is dRe, romelmac sawerad ganmawyo. 2020 weli idga, susxiani dekemberi. ozurgeTSi, gmirTa moedanze mudam momRimarma da Tbilma adamianma zurab qarCxavam SemaCera, Camojeqio, mTxova, kai masalas mogcem, novelisTvis gamogadgebao. ager, lado bolqvaZis Zmam, emigrantma meore msoflio omis dros safrangeTis tyveTa banakSi, SemTxveviT, ZmisSvili naxa, Zalze saintereso istoriaa, moiZie, gamogadgebao. lados Sevxvdi, ramdenime dReSi vewvie sofel nagomris mcxovreblebs, romlebmac kargad icodnen Tanasoflel maTe bolqvaZis istoria, xolo 98 wlis vaxtang goguaZes is bavSvobidanve axsovda. Mmasze sxvebic aRfrTovanebiT saubrobdnen. aman gadamwyvetina, kvleva-Zieba gamegrZelebina, Semegrovebina yvela mogoneba, informacia, werili, fotomasala. es interesi ufro gaRvivda, roca davazuste, rom maTe bolqvaZe levileli emigranti iyo, aTeuli wlebi cnobili qarTveli levilelebis gverdiT cxovrobda, levilSic da parizSic qarTveli emigrantebis namdvili fari da maxvili iyo. maTe – uSiSari, fizikurad uZlieresi da gamWriaxi kaci – ase warmoisaxa is Cems Tvalsawierze da roca mis Sesaxeb faqtebi da gagonili ambebi gavacnobiere, gadavwyvite, levilelTa ambebis gadmocemisas mTavari personaJi swored maTe bolqvaZe yofiliyo.
– da mainc, rogor moxvda es nagomareli kaci levilSi?
– maTe iZulebuli gaxda, 30-iani wlebis bolSevikur represiebs gaqceoda, jer TurqeTSi gaixizna, Semdeg ki levils Seafara Tavi.
– Tavad bolqvaZeTa gvaris etimologiac sainteresoa, vis fesvebze arian amozrdili?
– Zveli TqmulebiT, bolqvaZeebi is Zmebi arian, romlebic qvas bols adendneno. diax, maTe im bolqvaZeebis STamomavali iyo, romlebic TurqTa moTxovnebs ar daemorCilnen, ar Seicvales rjuli da qobuleTis sofel Cexedanadan wamovidnen ozurgeTSi. bolqvaZeebi, da ara marto isini, amayobdnen 1818-1820 wlebis guriis ajanyebis gmir ioTam bolqvaZiT, aseve abesaTi, romelmac 1841 wels moxaliseebi Sekriba, saTaveSi Caudga ajanyebul gurulebs da gogoreTis brZolaSi daamarcxa rusis jari.
– maTes cxovrebis saintereso epizodebis dakavSireba sxva istoriul personaJebTan, cxadia, did Zalisxmevas moiTxovda. . .
– nagomarsa da lixaurSi, ozurgeTSi uamrav adamianTan Sexvedram da saubarma damarwmuna, rom qarTuli sofeli didia, kargi mexsiereba aqvs, arafers iviwyebs. Cemi cnobiereba TandaTan farTovdeboda, nagomrelebi, levilelebi. . . Zveli nacnobebidan da axlad gacnobilebidan uamrav informacias, werils, fotomasalas viRebdi, romlebsac droisa da viTarebis Sesabamisad valagebdi. am xnis ganmavlobaSi, azrovnebiT, jer nagomarSi, Semdeg ki levilSi gadavinacvle, vcdilobdi, faqtebi da ambebi gagonilis, wakiTxulis Sesatyvisad gadmomeca. mokled, Tavi ar damizogavs da uamravi dokumenturi masalis moZiebiT da momarjvebiT Sevecade, meoce saukunis istoriuli pirovnebebis, eriskacebis; noe Jordanias, eqvTime TayaiSvilis, evgeni gegeWkoris, akaki Cxenkelis, sandro Wyonias, vlasa mgelaZis, valodia goguaZis, nikoloz oragveliZisa da sxvebis cxovrebisa da saqmianobis Sesaxeb informaciebi mxatvrulad gadmomeca. Dda Tu rogor SevZeli es, mkiTxvelma Seafasos. ise, wignis personaJebi gmirTan, maTesTan urTierTobaSi imyofebian da eseni, ZiriTadad, gurulebi arian.
– rogor afasebs mkiTxveli am wigns, rogoria rezonansi?
– wignma didi interesi gamoiwvia. . . ozurgeTis biblioTekasa da meore sajaro skolaSi Sexvedra gaimarTa, gansakuTrebiT axalgazrdebs ainteresebT emigrantTa cxovrebis ambebi. xazgasmiT aRiniSna, rom wignSi gadmocemuli istoriuli ambebi saqarTvelos, gansakuTrebiT guriis socialuri, politikuri, ekonomikuri, kulturuli, eTnografiuli yofis amsaxveli faqtebi da suraTebi ara mxolod warsulis swor gaazrebasa da warmoCenas, aramed momavali sazogadoebis progress emsaxureba. Aase vswavlobT warsuls momavlisTvis, saTanado analizisa da daskvnebisTvis. Amdenad, Tu am mxriv erTi aguri mainc davde momavlis saZirkvelze, madloba ufals, Cemi misia Sevasrule.
– wignis frangulad Targmnis idea da levilis sazogadoebasTan Sexvedris perspeqtiva rogor gesaxebaT?
– mkiTxvelebSi iyo saubari Targmanze, levilSi Sexvedris perspeqtivac ikveTeba. vnaxoT.
– rogoria levileli emigrantebisa da maTi STamomavlebis urTierToba saqarTvelosTan, Tqveni CarTuloba da urTierToba cnobil emigrantebTan?
– levilelebTan maqvs urTierToba da mstumroben kidec. Llavrenti (loran) CxaiZe, misi momRerali qaliSvili suliko (axla velodebi, erT TveSi parizidan sulikosa da momReralTa jgufs) koncertebs gamarTaven baTumSi, folkloris centrSi, qobuleTSi, ozurgeTSi, TbilisSi. . . organizebas me vukeTeb. vurTierTob noe ramiSvilis SviliSvil miSelTan (akakis Svili), mstumrobda saxlSic. tier beriSvilTan (qarTvel xalxTan megobrobisa da kulturis franguli asociaciis `gaumarjos saqarTvelos~ prezidenti, levilis qarTuli akademiis direqtoris moadgile) maqvs yovelkvireuli kavSirebi, piradi Sexvedrebic. maisis bolos unda Camosuliyvnen da prezentaciac Sedgeboda, magram levilis festivalma gadagvadebina Semodgomamde, lavrenti ki 5 dReSi Camova – saxli aq aaSena, mamiseul keraze, SuxuTSi. mizani erTia – emigrantebma dedasamSoblo ar dakargon.
– vin arian adamianebi, romlebic dagexmarnen warsulis gacocxlebaSi?
– rom ara sayovelTao interesi da Tanadgoma keTili adamianebisgan, es wigni ver daiwereboda. Cems gankargulebaSi iyo da gamoviyene saojaxo arqivebi (kako bolqvaZe, manana Wyonia, cisana CxaiZe, gia mamalaZe, lavrenti (loren) CxaiZe, togo bolqvaZe, gogita CxaiZe, rezo bolqvaZe, nugzar asaTiani).
personaJTa saxeebis gamosakveTad didad damexmara vaxtang goguaZis, gigla kobalavas, badri da gia bolqvaZeebis, goCa goguaZis, Temur TavarTqilaZis, rusudan beriSvilis, gela mdinaraZis, Temur goguaZis, suliko CxaiZis, anzor beriSvilis, manana Wyonias da kidev mravali adamianis monaTxrobi. madliereba minda gamovxato wignis redaqtor – Temur marSaniSvilis mimarT, mkiTxvels ki minda vuTxra: arc ise Sorsaa nagomridan levilamde, miT ufro axla, roca saqarTvelo evropul kurss irCevs.