„ცივილიზებულ სამყაროს ყოველთვის აქვს უნარი და რესურსი, დაიცვას უსაფრთხოება და კეთილდღეობა“
mmarTvel gundsa da opozicias Soris urTierTobis daregulireba kvlav problemad rCeba. ra aris amis mizezi? SesaZlebelia Tu ara oponentebs Soris urTierTkompromisi sxvadasxva sakiTxTan mimarTebiT? am kiTxvas xelisufleba da opozicia sxvadasxvagvarad pasuxobs, opozicionerTa TqmiT, vidre qveyanaSi axali arCevnebi ar Catardeba, vidre politpatimrebi cixeSi isxdebian da qveyana kvlav ar daadgeba dasavlur gzas, kompromisi xelisuflebasTan gamoricxulia. Tavis mxriv, mmarTveli partia acxadebs, rom araviTari axali arCevnebi ar iqneba. maTive TqmiT, qveyana Tanmimdevrulad viTardeba da opoziciis SeniSvnebi sxvadasxva sakiTxTan mimarTebiT usafuZvloa. erTi ram cxadia – saqarTveloSi politikuri temperatura maRalia, procesebi ki mravalferovani da damafiqrebeli. am da sxva aqtualur sakiTxebze gvesaubreba enm-is aWaris organizaciis politikuri mdivani kaxa miqelaZe.
– rogor afasebT bolo periodis politikur movlenebs?
– calsaxad SegviZlia vTqvaT, rom saqarTveloSi amJamad ar gvaqvs politikuri procesi, radgan xelisufleba miTvisebuli aqvs garkveul jgufs, romelic okupanti qveynis interesebs emsaxureba.
– rogor fiqrobT, aRmasrulebel xelisuflebaSi ganxorcielebuli cvlilebebi ra faqtorebma ganapiroba?
– marionetuli reJimis farglebSi mimdinare cvlilebebi efuZneba mxolod erTi adamianis nebas, romelic gadawyvetilebebs namdvilad ar Rebulobs Cveni saxelmwifos usafrTxoebisa da ganviTarebis mizanSewonilobidan gamomdinare.
– opoziciis da eqspertTa nawili acxadebs, rom xelisuflebaSi kobaxiZis gundi Zlierdeba. am mxriv, mmarTvel gundSi dapirispireba ramdenad mosalodnelia?
– rTulia ivaniSvilis qcevis prognozireba, Tumca vityvi: araviTari kobaxiZis gundi ar arsebobs, radgan e.w. Tanamdebobis pirebi ar arian damoukidebeli figurebi, maT araviTari politikuri TviTmyofadoba ar gaaCniaT da ivaniSvilis marTvis stilidan gamomdinare, roca imaze met Zalauflebas aZlevs maT, vidre Cvevia, wesiT, sagonebelSi unda iyvnen. Amitomac vfiqrob, rom saqarTvelos ganviTarebis xelaxali sunTqva mxolod amaTi sruli mocilebiT daiwyeba da maT SigniT mimdinare kosmetikuri cvlilebebi Sinaarsze veraviTar gavlenas ver moaxdens.
– bolodroindel sakanonmdeblo cvlilebebze ras ityviT? magaliTad, parlamentma amas winaT politikuri partiebis akrZalvasTan dakavSirebuli sakanonmdeblo cvlilebaTa paketi daamtkica. . .
– tragikomediuri Janris TvalsaCino magaliTia! SeuiaraRebeli Tvalic sakmarisia diqtaturisa da demokratiis gasarCevad. es yvelaferi absurds daemsgavsa, miT umetes im pirobebSi, roca am sakanonmdeblo cvlilebebs qveynis interesebs miaweren. sakiTxavia – romeli qveynis? SemTxveviT agresori qveynis interesebSi xom ar Sedis msgavsi antidemokratiuli cvlilebebi?
– sxvaTa Soris, eqspertebi acxadeben (magaliTad, gia xuxaSvili), rom opoziciaSi Sida dapirispirebaa. am mxriv, ras ityviT?
– opoziciaSi yofna aranaklebi pasuxismgeblobaa moqalaqeebis winaSe, amitom, roca acnobiereb miznis misaRwevad erTad dgomaa saWiro, magram amisaTvis realur nabijebs ar dgam, process azianeb. me piradad im adamianebs, romelTa ritorika mixeil saakaSvilis Sefasebisas srulad emTxveva putinisa da misi aqauri marionetebis ritorikas, opozicionerebad ar miviCnev.
– Tqveni partia am bolo dros aqtiurad daupirispirda salome zurabiSvils da gaxarias partias, ra aris amis mizezi?
– enm aravis ar upirispirdeba, Cven am qveynis swrafi reformirebis avtorebi varT, xolo is aqtorebi, romlebsac politikosobaze pretenzia aqvT, arakvalificiurobas avlenen, roca kremlis mesijebsa da maT gancxadebebSi gansxvaveba ar ikiTxeba. Sesabamisad, sakuTar Tavs upirispirdebian, radgan SeuZlebelia, saqarTvelos saxelmwifo interesebs icavde da amavdroulad, am saxelmwifos arqiteqtors, mixeil saakaSvils ebrZode.
– cxadia, gverds ver avuvliT `nacmoZraobaSi~ Seqmnil mdgomareobas, amboben, rom `Zvel gvardias~ Tina bokuCavas gadayeneba surs. ramdenad Seesabameba es simarTles?
– msgavsi moaruli xmebis adresati mudam enm-a, radgan ivaniSvilma mSvenivrad icis, vis ZaluZs saqarTveloSi arsebuli ganukiTxaobis dasruleba.
– minda gkiTxoT, saprotesto muxti, axla ra stadiaSia?
– protestis buneba, zogadad, misi dinamikis gardamaval xasiaTSi gamoixateba. SeiZleba, garkveul etapze, raodenobrivad Semcirdes an gaizardos, Tumca amiT ar icvleba im problemebis Sinaarsi, ramac xalxSi ukmayofileba gamoiwvia.
– opoziciaSi azrTa sxvadasxvaobaa adgilobriv arCevnebSi monawileoba-armonawileobaze, am mxriv `nacmoZraobis~ pozicia rogoria?
– zogadad, mimaCnia, rom aseTi mniSvnelobis gadawyvetilebebi mxardamWerebs unda mivandoT, Tumca iq, sadac arCevnebs daniSnuleba dakarguli aqvs da mxolod de-faqto situaciis samarTlebrivad gaformebis mizniT tardeba, masSi monawileoba ar aris marTebuli.
– sxva sakiTxsac SevexoT: Tu `megobari aqti~ kanonad iqca, es ramdenad daazianebs arsebul xelisuflebas?
– cxadia, `megobari aqtis~ suliskveTeba qarTveli xalxis daxmarebasa da mis dacvazea orientirebuli. danaSaulebrivi jgufi male igrZnobs am aqtis Zalas, is kidev utovebs e.w. xelisuflebas pozitiuri manevrirebis saSualebas da maTsave momavals isev maTi keTilgonierebis imedad tovebs.
– mmarTveli partiis wevrebi acxadeben, rom tramps `dif sTeiTi~ amarcxebs. Tqveni azri amis Sesaxeb. . .
– ukve vTqvi, rom absurds daemsgavsa moqmedi reJimis moqmedebebi. kidev ufro absurdulia maTi gancxadebebi da vin imeorebs dRevandel msoflioSi aseT sisuleleebs? medvedevi, peskovi da, samwuxarod, maTi aqauri ganStoeba `ocnebis~ saxiT.
– dabolos, ukrainasa da zogadad, msoflioSi mimdinare movlenebidan gamomdinare, rogoria saqarTvelos momavali?
– bunebrivi kanonzomierebaa – progresi imarjvebs, is ar marcxdeba! Sesabamisad, Tanamedrove geopolitikuri gadaTamaSeba am suliskveTebas ar kargavs. civilur samyaros yovelTvis aqvs unari da resursi, rom Tanxmobis pirobebSi daicvas usafrTxoeba da keTildReoba. qarTvelma xalxma ki daamtkica, rom misi istoriuli adgilic am civilizebul erTa Sorisaa. miuxedavad imisa, rom, Cvenda samarcxvinod, yvela is upiratesoba da saerTaSoriso aRiareba, rac mixeil saakaSvilis prezidentobisas kapitalis saxiT daugrovda saqarTvelos, gaflangulia ivaniSvilis mier, mainc imedianad vuyurebT momavals. aucileblad davbrundebiT iq, sadac Cveni adgilia, oRond – amJamindeli reJimisa da misi satelitebis gareSe!
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