,,ხშირად ვხატავ ყვავილებს – ჩემი სულის მზეს“
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dinji, darbaiseli, saTnoebiTa da mravalmxrivi niWiT madlcxebuli ana nikolaiSvili im mSvenier qalbatonTa ricxvs miekuTvneba, TavianT did sulier Zalas, pirovnul `mes~ xelovnebaSi rom ganasxeuleben. cnobili baTumeli mxatvari poeziasTanac wilnayaria. amaSi bevri darwmunda, roca qalaqis samxatvro saswavleblis sagamofeno darbazSi, or Tebervals, baTumisadmi miZRvnili misi leqsi himnad gaJRerda. mravalTaTvis es wardgineba sasiamovno moulodneloba iyo. `baTumo, Cemo baTumo, Sen, siyvarulis qalaqo~ – es sityvebi gulisgulamde aRwevda. operis momReral irakli korifaZis mier Sesrulebulma simReram msmenelebi moxibla, aplodismentebi arc kompozitor mayvala xorbalaZisaTvis daukliaT. gana mxolod simReris prezentacia Sedga im saRamos, sazogadoeba ana nikolaiSvilis ulamazes mxatvrul samyaroSi aRmoCnda – sagamofeno darbazSi warmodgenili iyo misi is ferweruli tiloebi, romelTac wlebis ganmavlobaSi gulmodgined, siyvaruliT qmnida. damTvaliereblebi gansakuTrebul interess iCendnen im portretebisa da peizaJebisadmi, istoriul gmirebsa da bunebas rom gamoxatavda. saTqmelia isic, rom qalbatoni anas araerTma namuSevarma sazRvargareTis qveynebis (espaneTi, amerika, germania, ruseTi) kerZo koleqciebsa da galereebSi daido bina. amagdari, Rvawmosili qalbatoni gulmxurvale mamuliSvili da aqtiuri moqalaqea, is baTumSi `demokratiuli moZraoba – Zalaufleba xalxs~ TanadamfuZnebelia. kidev erTi niunsi misi cxovrebidan: amaswinaT feisbuqma qalbatoni ana STamagonebeli SigTavsis Semqmnelad aRiara. diax, lamazia da saintereso mis mier warmodgenili mxatvruli samyaro, romelsac is Tavis feisbuqsivrceSi gvacnobs. aranakleb sainteresoa qalbatoni anas pirovnuli, sulieri portreti da amotomac vTxoveT, rom Tavisi fiqrebi, Sexedulebebi, survilebi gaeziarebina. es interviuc amitom CavwereT.
– sakuTar Tavs sxvisi TvaliT rom SexedoT, vis dainaxavT?
– erTi ubralo qristiani qali var, Cemi warsuliT da momavliT. mixaria moyvasis warmatebebi, guli Cemi mamulis av-kargiT maqvs Sevsebuli, mumli muxas ase uxvad rom Sesevia, amaze vwuxvar. imedia, amas paTetikad ar CamiTvliT. sxvisi TvaliT rom SevxedoT sakuTar Tavs, es zogjer aucilebelic kia. . . Tumca isic cxadia, yvela sakuTari Tvalsawieridan gafasebs. da mainc, sjobs, sakuTar TavSi kargad CavixedoT, rogorc gvirCeven – `Seican Tavi Seni~. Tavis Secnoba arc ise advilia, bevri pasuxgaucemeli kiTxva maqvs. Tavis Secnobis survili adamianSi azrovnebas aRvivebs da fiqrs gawyebinebs, Tundac aseTs: ratom aris ase agresiuli msoflio da ram SeaZula adamianebs erTmaneTi? is rac dRes saqarTveloSi xdeba, imdenad miRrRnis guls, rom sxva safiqrali ar mrCeba, ufals vTxov saqarTvelos gamTlianebas da gonze mosvlas.
– roca bavSvobis mogonebebi Tavs gaxsenebT, ocnebebi, romlebic mudam Tan gaxlavT. . .
– bavSvobaSi yvelaze lamazi da feradi dReebi mqonda. . . guriis sofel oqrosxidSi xuT dedmamiSvilTan erTad Tbilad da tkbilad vizrdebodi. axlos, tyeSi gaseirneba da iebis krefa iyo Cemi saqme, baxviswyalSi Wkumpalaoba, mokled, oqros xana mqonda. . . vTamaSobdi ezos kuTxeSi napovni TefSis natexebiT, mravali saintereso TamaSi iyo maSin, axlandeli, telefonis moyvaruli bavSvebi amas ver gaigeben. Cveni bavSvoba gansxvavebuli iyo, bunebasTan ufro axlos viyaviT.
– rogor fiqrobT, mxatvroba Tqveni sicocxlis wyaroa? uamisod SeZlebdiT cxovrebas?
– mxatvrobis gareSe ver warmomidgenia, maSin Cems cxovrebas azri ar eqneboda. bavSvobidan xatva dedam damawyebina, mamac xatavda, mere Cemi dedmamiSvilebic amyvnen da oTxivem samxatvro saswavlebeli davamTavreT. skolaSi gakveTilze ar maCerebda maswavlebeli, viyavi samaswavlebloSi da kedlis gazeTebs vxatavdi, vaformebdi.
– Tqveni naxatebidan romels gamoarCevdiT, romelSi ufro SeZeliT TviTgamoxatva?
– xatvas rom viwyeb, winaswar ar vici, ra gamova, funjs rom aviReb, mere modis muza da ideebi. gamovarCev `baTums~, siurealisturi peizaJia, aseve – `don kixots~, `mona lizas~ namdvilad gamowveva iyo, rogor davxatavdi `monalizas~. mere imdenma mTxova, aTze meti naxati gavaCuqe. zogi Tanamedrove firosmans meZaxis. lado gudiaSvilis saxelobis samxatvro saswavlebelSi roca vswavlobdi, baton lados uTxres, naxeT, Tqvennairi mxatvari gvyavso. . . cxadia, es Sefaseba gadaWarbebuli iyo. ar miyvars gadaxatva, kompoziciebi, romelTac vqmni, Cems gonebaSi Cndeba da mere maT ferebiT warmovadgen. Cemi bolodroindeli namuSevrebis sazogadoebisTvis gacnobis Semdeg, kolxeTis fazisis saero-samecniero saerTaSoriso akademiaSi mimiRes. damixatavs akademikosebi, kerZod, vaJa egriseli – is aris kolxuri fsalmunebis orastomeulis avtori, davxate xeofsis piramida, romelmac Zalian didi mowoneba daimsaxura. amboben, `Cakrulos~ msgavsad, kosmosSi unda gaigzavnos es naxatio. es maxarebs da mafiqrebs kidec. amboben imasac, rom Cemi namuSevrebis umravlesoba me mgavs, zogjer portrets cisfer Tvalebs vuxatav, rom me ar damemsgavsos, magram am msgavsebas verafers vuxerxeb da es albaT bunebrivicaa. ise, `mona lizac~ rom gaSifres, misi avtoris sruli konstruqciaa. . .
– cxovrebis sazrisi, ra gvaqcevs adamianad?
– adamianad gvaqcevs mxolod adamianoba, madlis, sikeTis keTeba, sxvisi pativiscema, piradulze win qveynis gasaWiris danaxva da dayeneba, RmerTis rwmena, radgan aq, dedamiwaze yvela warmateba arafers niSnavs, Tu ar gaviTvaliswinebT, rom uflis winaSe unda viyoT marTalni da roca gaviTavisebT mamuls, enas, sarwmunoebas, rac yvelas valia, veraferi mogvereva, samSoblos moRalateebis mteri var. . .
– gemovnebaze ar davobeno, vinc ase fiqrobs, imaT ras etyodiT?
– diax, swored gemovnebaze SeiZleba vidavoT imitom, rom ugemovno adamiani arasrulfasovnia, Cemi azriT. yvelaferSi gemovneba da oqros Sualedia saWiro, Torem naxeT, ras daemsgavsa es saqarTvelo. uSveri lanZRva da gineba, rac modis axalgazrda Taobisgan, Zalian Znelad aRsaqmelia, gansakuTrebiT gogonebisganaa sawyeni amgvari leqsika. maTgan dedebi, qalebi unda dadges. sakuTari dedebis maginebel biWebs rom vusmen, ZarRvebSi sisxli meyineba, namdvilad `brZnad metyveleba~ wamalia.
– bunebaSi roca xarT – aisi Tu daisi? zRva Tu mTa? bunebis yvelaze lamaz qmnilebad ra migaCniaT?
– bunebaSi yvelaferi lamazi da mowesrigebulia, igi xom udidesi mxatvaria! yvelaferi momwons am saocar da lamaz dedamiwaze, oRond am globalur safrTxes, rac dRes msoflios aSfoTebs, mec ganvicdi. albaT Cveni daudevrobis bralia, adamianebma samyaroSi bevri agresia SevitaneT da gvibrundeba bumerangis principiT.
– romel istoriul pirs gamoixmobdiT warsulidan, visi sibrZne da gmiroba gvWirdeba axla?
– momwons Tamar mefis periodi, daxatuli maqvs Tamar mefe bavSvebTan erTad. saerTod, Tamarze Zalian bevri tilo maqvs Seqmnili, gaCuqebuli. bavSvobidan vxatav mas, uzomod miyvars. maqvs Tamaris kaba, Cemi Sekerilia, aseve, Tamaris Tojina, leqsic davwere. . . mokled, Tamar mefis dros iyo renesansis periodi saqarTveloSi, qali mainc qalia, dedaa da masaviT veravin upatronebs am lamaz dedamiwas.
– sayvarel adamians romel Taiguls miarTmevdiT? da saerTod, Tqveni damokidebuleba yvavilebTan?
– yvavilebi aris dedamiwis feierverki, umisod qveyana ususuri iqneboda, xSirad vxatav yvavilebs – Cemi sulis mzes.
– wigni, romelsac wakiTxvis Semdeg araerTxel daubrundiT. . .
– `vefxistyaosani~ da biblia Cemi samagido wignebia, yovel jerze, rac meti dro gadis, ufro macvifrebs SoTa rusTavelis aforizmebi, es aris amouwuravi da msoflios upirvelesi wigni, raSic bibliacaa gamosaxuli. meamayeba, rom var qarTveli, uZvelesi eri varT, Zalian bevri niWieri gvyavs da, samwuxarod, bevri mavnebelic. . .
– Tqven da xelovnuri inteleqti. . .
– rac Seexeba cifrul inteleqts, is namdvil inteleqts emuqreba, ar momwons misi gavrceleba, miT umetes axalgazrdebSi, amaSi winsvla ar aris. aseve, ar momwons, roca laparakoben, rom unda Semovides eleqtronuli fuli, es monobis klasikuri nimuSia. isev rusTavels davesesxebi: `raca RmerTsa ara swaddes, ara saqme ar iqmnebis~.
– xelovanis yvelaze WeSmariti Semfasebeli. . . roca amaze fiqrobT?
– xelovnebis Sefasebas dro da xalxi gansazRvravs, dro sWirdeba yvelafers, vin vin aris – droSi gamovlindeba.
– ganwyoba, romelic am intervius Cawerisas dageuflaT da gsurT, gauziaroT Cvens mkiTxvels. . .
– Cemi ganwyoba pozitiuria, kamaTSi ibadeba WeSmariteba. Tqveni gazeTis mkiTxvels bevri emocia minda vusurvo – saqarTvelos gabrwyineba, romelic axla sportis sferoSi Cans. visurvebdi, rom es miRwevebi sxva sferoSic yofiliyos, esaa Cemi fiqri da ocneba!