ყოველი დღე – ახლის ძიებით შთაგონებული
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gagesaubrebaT da iumoriT migizidavT merab zaqariaZe – es gonebaxvili kaci, romelsac sityvac uWris da kalamic. wers leqsebs, moTxrobebs, piesebs, avtoria romanisa `nu mimatoveb~, romelsac farTo gamoxmaureba mohyva socialur qselSi. saTqmelia isic, rom Tavis moTxrobebsa da leqsebs Tavad aformebs mxatvrulad, is xom TviTnaswavli mxatvaria, amasTan, qmnis originalur xis nakeTobebs, esTetikurad gamorCeul sayofacxovrebo nivTebs. misi yoveli dRe axlis ZiebiTaa savse. merab zaqariaZe Cveni gazeTis stumaria.
– bednierebaa, adamianad rom moevlinebi am qveyanas. . .
– adrec mifiqria, risTvis movedi am qveynad, Cemi mosvliT ra Sevmate, ra aris Cems cxovrebaSi faseuli, adamianebis da rac mTavaria, RvTis mosawoni? vityvi, rom rTuli, magram saintereso cxovrebiT vicxovre es 66 weli. da ra sirTuleebic unda Segxvdes cxovrebis gzaze, sicocxle mSvenieria da bednierebaa, radgan adamiani xar, SegiZlia ifiqro, iazrovno, saqme akeTo, iSromo, Secvalo bevri ram, rac ar mogwons. . .
– rogor adamianad TvliT Tavs, vin aris merab zaqariaZe?
– vin var me? kaci var, adamiani, romlisTvisac xelovnebis siyvaruli sicocxlis pirobaa, sicocxlis mSvenierebas ki bunebasa da adamianebSi vxedav. miyvars Cemi fesvebi, Cemi kera, adgili, sadac davibade – es qaquTia (qobuleTi) da sadac axla vcxovrob – qalaqi ozurgeTi. vfiqrob, gansakuTrebiT Zvirfasia adgili, sadac davibadeT, sadac pirvelad agvexila Tvali da buneba SevigrZeniT. amitomac aris bavSvoba yovelTvis gansakuTrebiT mosagonari, dReebi, roca viyaviT ucodvelni da alalebi. es gancda asazrdoebs Semdeg mTel cxovrebas, rogorc naTqvamia: yvelani Cveni bavSvobidan movdivarT. miyvars Cemi bavSvobis mogoneba, miyvars Cemi winaprebi da fesvebi, Cemi ojaxi da Tanamemamuleni. . . zedmeti Tavmdablobac apartavnebaa mgoni da amitom vityvi: Tavs uniWo adamianad ar vTvli, Tumca, cxadia, arc gansakuTrebulad. mSoblebi maswavleblebi iyvnen, deda dawyebiTi klasebis pedagogi iyo, hoda, wera-kiTxvac saxlSi, skolaSi Sesvlamde viswavle. 16 wlis viyavi, skola rom davamTavre, 21-isa – instituti. 23 wlisa manqanaTmSenebeli qarxnis mTavar teqnologad damniSnes, 30 wlis asakSi – anaseulis Cais mrewvelobis samecniero sawarmoo gaerTianebis mTavar energetikosad. ase daiwyo da grZeldeboda Cemi gza, sanam erT dRes, moulodnelad, axali realobis winaSe ar davdeqi. . .
– anu profesia SeicvaleT. . .
– adre, rogorc giTxariT, teqnikur sferoSi vsaqmianobdi, literaturasTan, rogorc mkiTxvels mqonda Sexeba. maSin vinmes rom eTqva, literaturuli wignis avtori gaxdebio, gamecineboda. da ai, erT dRes (2012 wlis bolos) erTma SemTxvevam Secvala Cemi cxovreba. im dRes megobarTan mivedi stumrad. dedamisi gazeT `alions~ kiTxulobda da cremlebi mosdioda. ra moxda, ratom tiriT-meTqi, vkiTxe. ager iseTi raRac weria, cremlebi ver Sevikaveo. ai, es ambavic: sofel mTispirSi, naTesavis qorwilSi dedaqalaqidan erTi gauTxovari qalbatoni Camovida. qorwilSi patara, lamazi gogona SeniSna, moewona, moefera da Sokoladi misca. pataras Turme ramdenime Tvis winaT deda gardaecvala, qali rom moefera, CaTvala, es dedaCemiao da veRar moaSores. qali SesZra gogonas saqcielma, arc imas SeuSinda, rom gogonas 4 ufrosi da-Zma hyavda, arc imas, rom soflis problemebTan SeWideba mouwevda, da erTbaSad itvirTa xuTi bavSvis dedoba. ise momxibla am istoriam, gadavwyvite, novela damewera. aviRe saerTo rveuli da daviwye wera. vwer da modis sityvebi, winadadebebi, Tvalsawierze Cndebian axali personaJebi, saxeebi. . . mokled, gaivso Cemi rveuli da novelad Cafiqrebuli ambavi TandaTan gadaizarda vrcel miTxrobaSi da garkveuli drois Semdeg, romanad dasrulda.
– mere ra bedi ewia Tqvens romans da saerTod, rogor warimarTa Tqveni cxovreba?
– mere? upirvelesad, aviRe sabas leqsikoni da qarTuli enis ganmartebiTi leqsikoni da dRemde vmecadineob, daviwye novelebis wera. saerTod, weras novelebiT iwyeben da Semdeg eWidebian romans. Cems SemTxvevaSi ki piriqiT moxda. aTamde moTxroba davwere, gadavamuSave adre dawerili poema `zRapar iyo~ da dali riJmaZes (qarTulis maswavlebeli) vaCvene, romelmac miTxra, kargad azrovneb, es unda daibeWdoso. mirCia, cnobili mwerlisa da kritikosisTvis, baton rezo miSvelaZisTvis mimetana Cemi nawarmoebi da misi azri gamego. pirdapiri adamiania, Tu ar moewoneba, Tqma ar moeridebao, miTxra. erTxans vyoymanobdi, merideboda, bolos mainc gavbede da telefonze davureke. SevTanxnmdiT, TbilisSi mimetana misTvis Cemi moTxrobebi.
– rogor Caiara revaz miSvelaZesTan Sexvedram?
– Cavedi TbilisSi, avedi nucubiZis platoze, Turme am quCaze bevri cnobili mwerali, mxatvari, musikosi cxovrobda. Sevxede: mansardiani, didi orsarTuliani, kerZo saxli dgas ezoSi. 2017 wlis 15 seqtemberi iyo. am saxlSi cxovrobda batoni rezo, 76 wlis iyo maSin. marto cxovrobda, erTaderTi vaJi afxazeTis omSi daeRupa, colic gardacvloda. davreke zari, kari gamiRo, SemipatiJa, Semodio. momerida, gadaveci Cemi nawerebi da vuTxari, erTi Tvis Semdeg SegexmianebiT-meTqi. meore diliT Tavad damireka, daviwye Seni wignis kiTxva, ramdenime gverdi wavikiTxe romanisa da SegiZlia mSvidad iyo, es namdvili mwerlis daweriliao. ver warmoidgenT, ra damemarTa, aseTi sityvebi namdvili Soki iyo. 3 dRis Semdeg isev damireka: romanic momewona, poemac, leqsebic, zRaprebic da moTxrobebico. cxadia, aman saocari stimuli momca.
– Semdeg rogor gaagrZeleT cxovreba, rogor warimarTa Tqveni sadagi dReebi?
– mogexsenebaT, dRes nawarmoebis mkiTxvelamde mitanis erTaderTi gza aRar aris misi wignad gamocema. socialuri qseli mkiTxvelTan uSualo kontaqtis SesaZleblobas iZleva. Tavdapirvelad, Cems profilze daviwye gamoqveyneba, mere sxvadasxva literaturul jgufSi. sasiamovnoa CemTvis mkiTxvelTa pozitiuri gamoxmaureba, gansakuTrebiT, profesionalebis. araerTma cnobilma mweralma saqebari sityva ar daiSura. uzomod madlieri var batoni goCa WabukaiZis, romelmac mxatvrulad waikiTxa Cemi ramdenime novela, leqsi da nawyvetebi romanidan. . . arian iseTebic, romlebmac gamakritikes. amaSi uCveulos vearafers vxedav. piriqiT, SemoqmedebiT zrdaSi mexmareba.
– 90-ian wlebSi aqtiurad iyaviT Cabmuli sazogadoebriv- politikur procesebSi, axla rogor igonebT im dReebs?
– 1989 wlis 9 aprils ozurgeTSi me, kote beriZem, gia TavaZem da Tamaz lomjariam CamovayalibeT saqarTvelos saxalxo frontis regionaluri ganyofileba, viyavi saxalxo frontis pirveli da meore yrilobis delegati. pirvelad iq vnaxe da gavicani erovnuli moZraobis liderebi, maTTan Sexvedrebi dauviwyaria. 1990 wlis oqtombris arCevnebis dros, roca gamsaxurdia movida xelisuflebaSi, ozurgeTis raionis saolqo-saarCevno komisiis Tavmjdomare viyavi. . . 1992 wlis 5 ianvars TbilisSi momiwia Casvla, ZmaTamkvleli omi iyo gaCaRebuli, im dRes Cemi TvaliT vnaxe dangreuli rusTavelis gamziri. . . amis Semdeg politikas CamovSordi.
– amboben, rom xatavT da SesaniSnav grafikul namuSevrebs qmniT. bevri aqebs Tqvens sayofacxovrebo nakeTobebs. . .
– xatva Cemi hobia. aranairi samxatvro ganaTleba ar maqvs, rac miwyaloba RvTiurma gangebam, mxolod isaa. maqvs grafikuli namuSevrebi, maT Soris, feradi fanqrebiT Sesrulebuli, aseve, xeze wviT namuSevrebi, gamoyenebiTi xelovnebis nakeTobebi. saxlSi avejis naxevari Cemi xeliT maqvs damzadebuli, magidebi, skamebi, tansacmlis da WurWlis karadebi, yavis servizis sakidebi.
– axla ra Canafiqri gaqvT?
– amJamad vwer moTxrobas da Tan vxatav gogonas portrets. TavSi kidev mitrialebs oTxi moTxrobis siuJeti. ar vici, rodis davwer, magram rom davwer, namdvilad vici.