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lali gujabiZe samoleTeli (Suaxevis raioni) gamrekeliZeebis rZalia. male is da aqauri murman gamrekeliZe qorwinebidan 50 wels miiTvlian. guriis sofel naRobilevSi dabadebuli gogona mTielma Wabukma vaJkacobiTa da gonierebiT moxibla. lalim da murmanma ori vaJi gazardes. ufrosi, efremi (elguja), bolnisis eparqiis mTavarepiskoposia, badri ki 4 vaJisa da qaliSvilis mamaa. lali gujabiZe CvenTan saubrobs.

– aWaris mTianeTs kargad vicnobdi, Cemi axloblebi aq pedagogebad muSaobdnen. studentobis wlebSi, qimia-biologiis specialobis studenti, kuTxesa da mis mkvidrT ufro davuaxlovdi, am siaxlovem ki gamrekeliZeebis ojaxamde mimiyvana. bedis madlieri var. TiTqmis naxevari saukunea, me da murmani erTmaneTs veloliavebiT. samoleTs am gvaris matarebeli mxolod 4 ojaxi SemorCa. winaprebis keraze sacxovrisi moiwyo Cemma ufrosma vaJma, bolnisis eparqiis mTavarepiskoposma efremma.

– male 20 weli gaxdeba, rac Tqveni Svili saqarTvelos sapatriarqos wminda sinodma, 34 wlis asakSi, eparqiis mRvdelmTavrad gamoarCia. Svilis aseT aRiarebas rogor SexvdiT?

– yoveli dedis valia, Svilis aRzrda-dakvalianebisTvis yvelaferi iRonos, magram marto wvrTna ras izams. . . gagvimarTla, meufe efremi (elguja) bavSvobidanve RmerTis siyvaruliTa da pativiscemiT suldgmulobda. Tavis oTaxSi religiuri kuTxec moawyo. mSoblebi mis nebas davyeviT. gulis wadili rom gamimxila – Cemi momavali eklesiur cxovrebas minda davukavSiroo, gulis siRrmeSi gamixarda kidec, rameTu Cemi mSoblebi marTlmadideblebi arian, murmanisa – muslimanebi, Svilma ki WeSmariti sarwmunoebis samsaxurSi Cadgomis mzaoba gamoTqva. maSin verc ki gavifiqrebdi, rom gavidoda ramdenime weli da sruliad saqarTvelos kaTolikos-patriarqis, uwmindesisa da unetaresis, misi maRalyovladusamRvdeloesobis ilia meoris locva-kurTxeviTa da wminda sinodis mxardaWeriT, 2006 wlis dekemberSi bolnisis eparqiis mRvdelmTavrad gamoarCevdnen. amaze didi pativi dedisTvis ra unda iyos. im dRidan moyolebuli, ufals vevedrebi, rom Svilma Tavisi movaleoba erisa da marTlmadidebeli mrevlis winaSe pirnaTlad Seasrulos.
– Svilic dedas imeds gimarTlebT. . .

– meufe efremis nebisyofisa da uflis Tayvanismcemel adamians sxvagvari moqmedeba ar SeuZlia. uflisadmi samadlobeli ar meleva, roca bolnisSi mivdivar da misi locva-kurTxeviT aSenebul taZrebs, aRmarTul jvrebs Tvals Sevavleb. aWaridan gadasulebma bolnisSi qarTuli sofeli aaRorZines. meufis locva-kurTxeviT im sofelSi wminda andria pirvelwodebulis saxelobis taZari aSenda da mRvdeli daadgines. 2012 wlidan aq locvebi aRevlineba, sxva RvTismsaxurebebi tardeba.
– meufe mSobliur kuTxesac ar iviwyebs.
– winaprebis adgilebisadmi gamorCeuli damokidebuleba aqvs. sofelSi rom sacxovrisi moiwyo, mivesalmeT, mTa Romaze kotejis Cadgma ufro sasixarulo iyo. mTaSi zafxulSi Cvenc mivdivarT ojaxiT da visvenebT. TviTonac agvistoSi Camodis da saRvTo da saxalxo dResaswaulebs `jvarobasa~ da `SuamTobas~ eswreba. sxalTis eparqiis mTavarepiskopos meufe spiridonTan erTad monawileobda mTa Romaze, uCambaSi jvrebis aRmarTvaSi, sofel wablanaSi, naTlismcemlis goraze, mTa Romaze Catarebul sayovelTao naTlobebSi. guls mixarebs is keTili damokidebuleba, rac ori eparqiis mTavarepiskoposebs (sxalTa, bolnisi) Sorisaa.
– dedisTvis gamorCeuli Svili ar arsebobs. . .
– geTanxmebiT. keTili saqmeebiT, mamulisa da ojaxis siyvaruliT modis meore vaJi badri. is da iamze varSaniZe ukve 4 biWisa da qaliSvilis mSoblebi arian, 5 SviliSvili gvixarebs guls me da Cems meuRles.

– aWaraSi rom marTlmadideblur mrwamss ubrundebian, amaSi Tqveni ojaxis wvlilic didia.

– aRsaniSnavia is procesebi, rac aWaris mTianeTSi, kerZod, sxalTis eparqiaSi mimdinareobs marTlmadideblobasTan mimarTebaSi. marto xiWauris universiteti rad Rirs. patriarqisa da meufe spiridonis locva-kurTxeviT, taZrebi aigo xuloSi, SuaxevSi, zesofelSi, xiWaurSi, Sendeba eklesia qedaSi, sofel furtioSi (elvauri), saxe icvala sxalTis taZarma. mis axlos aigo ioane naTlismcemlis samlocvelo, jvrebi aRimarTa Ciruxis, sanalias, Taginuris, gomanis mTebSi. sxalTis eparqiis taZrebSi RvTismsaxurebas adgilobrivebi atareben, rac didi winsvlaa.

– profesiiT pedagogi, skolebSi religiis swavlebasTan dakavSirebiT ras ityviT?

– Cvens tolerantobaze bevrs saubroben, kargicaa, magram tolerantobas Seni erisa da qveynis mTavari aRmsarebloba ar unda Seewiros. saqarTveloSi qristianoba saxelmwifo religiad isev unda gamocxaddes, amis safuZveli ki skola unda iyos. vatyobT, rom moferebam bevrs `awyina~. es miwa, es mze da wyali qarTulia da mas gafrTxileba unda. is, rac erovnuli, qarTulia, marTlmadideblobasTanaa kavSirSi.