“კაცმა შენება უნდა ისწავლო, ნგრევას სწავლა არ სჭირდება”

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qveyanas Rirseuli, pativdebuli, cxovrebiT dabrZenebuli adamianebi, romlebic yovelgvari xmauris gareSe akeTeben saqmes, mravlad hyavs. maTY Soris Tamamad SegviZlia davasaxeloT tunaZeebeli oTar WeliZe, romelic male 90 wels miiTvlis. misi biografia soflis, qveynis samsaxurSi gatarebul mraval wels itevs, rasac misabaZi STamomavlobis winamZRolobac emateba. oTar WeliZe Cveni stumaria.
– Rirseuli winaprebiT vamayob. istoriul wyaroebs Tu davujerebT, mesxeTis ZirZvel sofel WeWlaSia Cveni fesvebi. mravalSviliani ojaxidan aWaris mTianeTSi sami Zma wamosula. erTi axlandel sofel tunaZeebSi damkvidrebula, meore – sofel iremaZeebSi, mesame Zmis kvali dakargulia. ar miyvars, rom amboben, gamoqceula, mkvlelobaSi an sxva borotebaSi eWvmitanili yofilao. saqarTveloSi mosaxleobis erTi kuTxidan meoreSi gadasvla odiTganve iyo damkvidrebuli. magaliTisTvis me-20 saukunec sakmarisia, romlis momswre da mnaxveli mec var. marto Rorjomis xeobidan 2000-mde komlia gadasuli qvemo qarTlSi, kaxeTSi, javaxeTisa da TrialeTis zegnebze, guriis regionSi. amJamad sofel tunaZeebSi arcerTi tunaZe ar cxovrobs. sxva regionebSi gadasulebma, soflis pativsacemad, gvari ar Seicvales. WeliZeebsa da tunaZeebs naTesauri urTierTobebic gvaqvs.
– saintereso SromiTi da cxovrebiseuli gza gamoiareT…
– cxovreba kinokadrebiviTaa, Tvals rom gadavavleb ganvlil gzas, bednierebiT vivsebi. skolis merxidan moyolebuli, saqmisTvis zurgi ar Semiqcevia. mezoblis, megobris siyvarulisTvis ar miRalatia. Rorjomis skolis kursdamTavrebulma, saxelovani pedagogebis damoZRvriT vicxovre. maTi umravlesoba qveynis sxva regionebidan iyvnen movlinebulni. dRes maT SvilebTan vmegobrob. bevri gansacdeli gamoviare. sxvebTan erTad mec Semexo meore msoflio omic. sxvisi dardis gaziareba, mamulis siyvaruli, mSobliuri enis dacva, mrwamsisadmi erTguleba da yvelaze mTavari – mindobili saqmisadmi erTguleba ganvlilma wlebma maswavla. 18 wlis viyavi, roca mSobliuri soflis brigadiroba mandes. iqidan moyolebuli, viyavi soflis xelmZRvaneli, 13 weli vimuSave xulos sagzao sammarTveloSi, 12 weli – energokompaniaSi pasuxsageb Tanamdebobaze, mravali samTavrobo jildo, qebis sigeli da madlobis baraTi amSvenebs Cems saojaxo arqivs. axlac vsaqmianob SviliSvilis mier, gaxsnil Sps `aligatorSi~ saqmian rCevebsac vaZlev. 90 wlis ganmavlobaSi mravali dasamaxsovrebeli weli mqonda. Tundac is periodi, roca soflis xelmZRvanelma tunaZeebi mowinave kolmeurneobad vaqcie, raionuli sabWos deputati roca viyavi, Rorjomis xeobis mosaxleobis keTildReobaze vzrunavdi. maxsendeba 1999 weli. sofel tunaZeebis skola avariul SenobaSi iyo. maSin fuli arc qveynis yulabaSi ido da arc sofels hqonda. raionisa da regionis xelmZRvanelobas TxovniT mivmarTe, skolis axali Senoba agvego da 8-wliani skola saSualod gadagvekeTebina. uari ar miTxres. dawyebuli saqme bolomde miviyvane da 150 moswavles, sainiciativo wesiT, skolis axali Senoba avugeT. am statusiT tunaZeebSi, moswavleTa kontingentis simciris miuxedavad, skola isev moqmedebs.
– mindobili saqmis Ralati ar giyvarT. usaqmurad ver CerdebiT. . .
– Cemi cxovreba, saqmianoba ase ar aewyoboda, rom ara erTguli Tanamecxedre, yvela Cemi warmatebis gamziarebeli meri arTmelaZe-WeliZe. 2016 wlamde, 60 welze meti erTad movdiodiT. xuTi Svili gaizarda Cvens ojaxSi – sami qaliSvili da ori vaJi. tyupi gogonebis dabadeba CvenTvis yvelaze didi sixaruli iyo. ukve 15 SviliSvilis, SvilTaSvilebis, maTi Svilebis momswre var. Cemi da meris STamomavloba 75 wevrs iTvlis. pativs mcemen, meferebian, Cems rCeva-darigebasac iTvaliswineben. SviliSvili daviT WeliZe 2012-2013 wlebSi xulos municipalitetis meri iyo. kargi xelmZRvanelis saxeli datova. megobrebze gadayolili kaci var. am tradicias Svilebi, SviliSvilebi agrZeleben. mTa zotiyelSi mTis saxli gvidgas, kurort baxmaroSi – koteji. yoveli wlis `zotiyelobaze~ megobrebi gvstumroben da vxalisobT. mTa, misi sirTuleebi, tradiciebi, bavSvobidanve miyvars da am asakSic ver velevi.
– wels Sesrulda 95 weli 1929 wlis ajanyebidan. aWaris mTianeTis mosaxleoba maSin arsebul xelisuflebas daupirispirda. Rorjomis xeobaSi ajanyebis erT-erTi moTave abas WeliZe iyo. ra iciT am pirovnebis Sesaxeb?
– me ajanyebis Semdeg var dabadebuli, magram ajanyebis monawileebs da momswreebTan xSirad misaubria. bolSevikebis TareSma, mTielTa Tavmoyvareobis Selaxvam miiyvana mosaxleoba am donemde. im dros erovnuli adaT-wesebis damcveli mamis Zma abas WeliZe ajanyebulebs uTanagrZnobda. mas axlo urTierToba hqonda sxva xeobebis (Wvana, sxalTa-xixani, beRleT-danisparauli) ajanyebulTa meTaurebTan. abasi didi avtoritetiT sargeblobda, Rorjomelebi usmendnen da endobodnen. ajanyebulebma komunistebi, komkavSirlebi, aqtivistebi, sul 100-mde kaci Seagroves, xel-fexi Seukres, fizikuradac gauswordnen da sofel winwkalaSvilebSi zeiral arTmelaZis sabZelSi gamoketes. gamoitanes verdiqti, rom is pirebi, romlebic Cadris axdis kampaniaSi iyvnen CarTulebi, cecxlze daewvaT. brbos abas WeliZe win aRudga, ras akeTebT, es qmedeba RorjomelTa momavals daazarelebs, am codvas Taobebi verasodes ver Camoirecxaveno. ajanyebulebma ganzraxvaze uari Tqves. abasi maSin 29 wlis iyo. mas sami qaliSvili hyavda. ajanyebis CasaxSobad aWaris mTianeTSi Camosulma lavrenti beriam da qveynis sxva xelmZRvanelebma ajanyebis meTaurebis dapatimreba gadaifiqres. erT-erTi moTave alisulTan bolqvaZe xelisuflebas ar endo da qveynidan wasvla daapira. abassac uTxra, gamomyevio, magram man upasuxa: Sen gagacileb da mere mec wamovalo. ajanyebulebi im dResve, abas WeliZis meTaurobiT, saqarTvelo-TurqeTis sazRvarze arsebul saguSagos Tavs dasxmian da alisulTani 30-mde TanamebrZolTan erTad TurqeTSi gaucilebiaT. amis Semdeg abas WeliZe Tavisi nebiT ozurgeTis uSiSroebas Cabarda im imediT, rom danaSauls apatiebdnen, an mcire sasjels akmarebdnen… abass 10 wliT patimroba miusajes. sasjels qalaq permSi ixdida, saidanac cocxali aRar dabrunebula. oblad darCenili qaliSvilebi biZebma aRzardes. maTgan erTi – mixribani, Cvens ojaxSi izrdeboda. dRes abasis samive Svili cocxalia. mamis damsaxurebas ar iviwyeben. sxvaTa Soris, alisulTan bolqvaZis Sesaxeb wigni daiwera, magram abas WeliZesTan misi urTierTobis Sesaxeb, araferi dawerila, rac sxvebma unda gaiTvaliswinon. madloba gazeT `aWaras~, rom misi saSualebiT sazogadoebas biZis – abas WeliZis saqmianoba gavacani.
– STamomavlebze ras gvetyviT?
– Rirseul winaparze ukve giambeT. iseTive wesebiT icxovra mamaCemma axmed WeliZem. am wesiT cxovroben Cemi STamomavlebi. isini niWs, unars, SesaZleblobas qveynis momavals axmaren. firma, romelic `aligatoris~ saxeliT moqmedebs, yovelwliurad 500-mde naklebad uzrunvelyofil ojaxs exmareba. RorjomSi yvela siaxlis wamomwyebT gverdiT udgas. SarSan saxalxo dResaswauls `Semodgoma RorjomSi~ Cauyara safuZveli. SviliSvilma selman WeliZem mis organizebulad Catarebas Seuwyo xeli. amagi mifasdeba. yvelgan megobari, Tanamdgomi myavs. mekeiZeebeli revaz miqelaZis qaliSvili mziuri miqelaZe Cems SviliSvil daviT WeliZeze rom iyo daniSnuli, imxanad baTumis SoTa rusTavelis saxelmwifo universitetis reqtorma, regionis pirvelma pirma didi Tanadgoma gamiwies da mziuris universitetSi swavla damifinanses. dRes igi warmatebuli Terapevti, kargi meojaxe da dedaa. kurort baxmaroSi wasvla maxarebs. iq myofs, guriaSi mcxovrebi mezoblebi makiTxaven… kargi droa, magram zogierTebi mas cudad iyeneben. kacma Seneba unda iswavlos, ngrevas swavla ar sWirdeba. axla futkars vuvli, kargad vemsaxurebi da kidec mifasdeba. saukeTeso megobrebs, axloblebs TafliT vumaspinZldebi. tunaZeebel WeliZeebs uqmad yofna Zalian gviWirs.