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eqspertTa azriT, dResdReobiT saqarTvelo rogorc saSinao, ise sagareo asparezze mniSvnelovani gamowvevebis winaSe dgas: dapirispireba mmarTvel gundsa da opozicias Soris, aqciebi, mosaxleobis arasaxarbielo ekonomikuri mdgomareoba, rasac emateba isic, rom opozicia ar aRiarebs arsebul xelisuflebas da xelaxali arCevnebis Catarebas iTxovs. Tavis mxriv, mmarTveli partia acxadebs, rom arCevnebi sanimuSod Catarda. maTive TqmiT, mitingebis muxtma iklo. . . dro gadis, mmarTveli partia TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebisTvis emzadeba, romelic wlis miwuruls gaimarTeba. analitikosTa TqmiT, opozicia am mimarTebiT unda gaaqtiurdes, raTa mosaxleobam xelisuflebis alternatiuli Zala igrZnos. winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, mmarTveli partia SeZlebs opoziciis ganeitralebas. faqtia, rom saqarTveloSi, iseve rogorc mTel msoflioSi, sayuradRebo movlenebi viTardeba. swored amis Taobaze gvesaubreba `strategia aRmaSeneblis~ aWaris organizaciis xelmZRvaneli beqa diasamiZe.
– rogor afasebT bolo periodis politikur movlenebs? saubari mmarTvel gundSi ganxorcielebuli sakadro cvlilebebiT daviwyoT. . .
– rusTavelze 130 dReze metia, uwyveti aqciebi imarTeba, romlis monawileebic politpatimrebis ganTavisuflebasa da xelaxali arCevnebis Catarebas moiTxoven. vercerTi politikuri Zala, Tu `qarTul ocnebas~ SeiZleba ase vuwodoT, mSvidad ver uyurebs amdeni gulanTebuli, patrioti adamianis protests amdeni xnis ganmavlobaSi, Tan im pirobebSi, rom ician, simarTle maTken ki ara, am xalxis mxares aris. bunebrivia, xelisuflebas nervebi Ralatobs da es asec unda iyos. axla midis Sida dapirispireba, SeiZleba iTqvas, `alqajebze nadiroba~, anu maTze, visi mizeziT xdeba is, rom oTx Tveze meti xnis ganmavlobaSi xalxi ver daSales da saprotesto muxti ver Caaqres.
– gasagebia, rom opozicia mmarTveli partiis Sida ganxeTqilebaze saubrobs, Tumca xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi acxadeben, rom `qarTuli ocneba~ erTiania rogorc arasdros da opoziciis Sefasebebi am mxriv, usafuZvloa, ras fiqrobT?
– dapirispireba, rogorc vTqvi, arsebobs, magram, bunebrivia, amas Tavad ar aRiareben. ufro zustad, jerjerobiT ar aRiareben, radgan kvlav xelisuflebis sadaveebTan arian da fiqroben, rom xalxis protests rogorRac mainc gadaagoreben. ubralod, ver xvdebian, rom xalxis ukmayofileba dRes ar dawyebula, Sesabamisad, arc xval damTavrdeba da Tavis logikur dasasrulamde miva.
– aranaklebi diskusia gamoiwvia saparlamento komisiis sxdomebma, Tqveni azri amis Sesaxeb. . .
– `qarTuli ocneba~ yvelanairad cdilobs, yuradReba rusTavelze protestidan aralegitimuri parlamentis ukanono sxdomebze gadaitanos. msgavsi qmedebebi araxalia qocebisgan. isini mTeli 12 weli – `ra, omi gindaT?~, am narativiT kvebavdnen Tavis eleqtorats, magram Cveni mosaxleobis didi umravlesoba ukve kargad xvdeba, rom raime formiT qveyanaSi mSvidobis garantorebi isini ver iqnebian. piriqiT, Tu xelisuflebaSi darCenisTvis dasWirdebaT, oms sakuTar xalxs Tavad gamoucxadeben da amisTvis rusuli jaris Semoyvana srulebiT ar iqneba saWiro. principSi, rom daakvirdeT, rasac policielebi dRes TbilisSi, rusTavelze, baTumsa da mTel saqarTveloSi akeTeben, gana es ukve brZola ar aris sakuTar xalxTan?!
– sxvaTa Soris, mmarTveli partiis wevrebi acxadeben, rom isini saqarTvelos ar adanaSauleben 2008 wlis agvistos omTan dakavSirebiT, aramed iZieben maSindeli Cinovnikebis saqmianobas omis periodSi. . .
– yvela normalur qveyanaSi umaRlesi politikuri Tanamdebobis pirebis mier gadadgmuli nabijebi miiReba da formdeba rogorc saxelmwifos gadawyvetilebebi. pasuxismgeblobac, romelic axlavs am procesebs, saerTaSoriso samarTalSi saxelmwifos ekisreba da ara kerZo pirebs. ase magaliTad, marTalia, ar mogvwons es TviTmarqvia xelisufleba, magram maT mier dRes saerTaSoriso asparezze yvela mxridan gafuWebuli urTierTobebis gamo, xval qarTveli diplomatebis axalgazrda Taobam unda agos pasuxi da negatiuri Sedegebis gamosworebaze izrunos. arada, qocebis mavneblobisa da uvicobis gamo momaval Taobebs ramdenime aTeuli weli dasWirdebaT zianis gamosasworeblad.
– mmarTveli partiis erT-erTma liderma mamuka mdinaraZem ganacxada, rom sakonstitucio sasamarTlos mimarTavs `nacmoZraobis~ da masTan afilirebuli partiebis akrZalvis Taobaze, ras fiqrobT?
– ar arsebobs fskeri, romelsac `qarTuli ocneba~ Zalauflebis SenarCunebis procesSi ar gaxvrets. Tu SesaZlebloba miecemaT, opoziciurad ganwyobil yvela partias da mediasaSualebas daxuraven ise, rom warbic ar SeutokdebaT. ubralod, amis saSualeba ar unda mivceT da yvela erTad davdgeT – partiebic, arasamTavrobo organizaciebic da samoqalaqo sazogadoebac.
– ras ityviT bolodroindeli kanonebis Sesaxeb, romlebic parlamentma amas winaT miiRo?
– rogorc aRvniSne, TviTmarqvia xelisufleba cdilobs, nebismieri kritikuli azri gaaCumos, amisTvis yvela meTods mimarTavs. maT Sorisaa iseTi normatiuli aqtebi, romlebic ewinaaRmdegeba qarTuli saxelmwifos nacionalur interesebs. yvela es kanoni, romelic ukanono parlaments aqvs miRebuli, Cveni mxridan, pirveli SesaZleblobisTanave, gauqmdeba da Cveni qveyana kvlav daubrundeba demokratiuli ganviTarebis gzas.
– xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi acxadeben, rom zemoaRniSnuli sakanonmdeblo cvlilebebi qveynis sakeTildReod xorcieldeba. . .
– rogor SeiZleba raime qmedeba, rac pirdapir azianebs saqarTvelos demokratiuli ganviTarebis perspeqtivebs, an ufro metic, iziarebs saqarTvelos istoriuli mtris, ruseTis interesebs, Cveni qveynisTvis sikeTis momtani iyos. gasuli saukunis 90-ian wlebSi erovnul-ganmaTavisuflebeli moZraoba imisTvis ar dauwyia qarTvel xalxs, rom mogvianebiT, biZina ivaniSvili, rogorc diqtatori, Cveni samSoblos `baton-patroni~ gamxdariyo.
– meoTxe Tvea, mimdinareobs aqciebi dedaqalaqSi, protestis muxtma xom ar iklo?
– SeiZleba saqarTvelos qalaqebSi protesti yoveldRiurad mravalricxovani ar iyos, amas Tavisi obieqturi da subieqturi mizezebi aqvs, magram guliswyroma mosaxleobis saRad moazrovne nawilSi ar ganelebula. es rom ase ar iyos, TviTmarqvia xelisuflebis policias Zaladoba ar dasWirdeboda, xolo parlaments – ukanono gadawyvetilebebis miReba.
– vxedavT, rom opozicia erTmaneTs daeria, magaliTad, `nacmoZraoba~ salome zurabiSvils da gaxarias partias upirispirdeba, aseve `girCi – meti Tavisufleba~ ramdenime politikosma datova, ras fiqrobT?
– qarTuli sazogadoeba reJims ebrZvis mSvidobiani protestis formebiT, es droSi gawelili procesia. 4 Tveze metia, qarTuli sazogadoeba quCaSi dgas da, bunebrivia, paralelur reJimSi Cndeba Zalian bevri zogadi xasiaTis kiTxva imasTan dakavSirebiT, Tu ramdenad efeqturia brZolis arCeuli meTodebi, ra winsvla gvaqvs, rogoria ama Tu im aqtoris roli procesebSi, ra siaxle unda SevitanoT Cvens aqtiurobaSi da rogor, ra formebiT da a.S. bunebrivia, msgavsi kiTxvebi azrTa sxvadasxvaobas iwvevs da logikuria, yvelas aqvs Tavisi azris gamoxatvis ufleba. naTqvamia, azrTa WidilSi ibadeba WeSmariteba. SeiZleba brZolis formebze vkamaTobdeT, magram mTavari is aris, rom yvela erT rameze vTanxmdebiT – es xelisufleba saxlSi gasaSvebia.
– sxvaTa Soris, 31 marts gamarTulma aqciamac aCvena, rom opozicia daqsaqsulia, iTqva, rom unda Seiqmnas axali platforma, gviambeT amis Sesaxeb. . .
– axali platformis Seqmna Tu nebismieri sxva formis gaerTianeba namdvilad saWiroa. erTianobas alternativa ar aqvs. amis Taobaze mudmivad saubrobs `strategia aRmaSeneblis~ lideri batoni giorgi vaSaZe. mosaZebnia TanamSromlobis iseTi modeli, romelic sxvadasxva ideologiis partiebs gaaerTianebs. rogorc Cans, mxolod prodasavlur kursSi Tanxvedra ar aris sakmarisi. saWiroa, Sexebis sxva wertilebi gamoikveTos partiebs Soris da Tan rac SeiZleba male.
– rogorc cnobilia, oqtomberSi adgilobrivi TviTmarTvelobis arCevnebia daniSnuli, am mxriv, opoziciis strategiaze ras gvetyviT?
– opoziciis xedva is aris, rom Tu ar dakmayofilda ori ZiriTadi moTxovna – politpatimrebis upirobo ganTavisufleba da parlamentis xelaxali arCevnebi adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebSi monawileobas ar miviRebT.
– Tqveni TvalTaxedviT, `megobari aqtis~ faqtori ra cvlilebebs moutans saqarTvelos?
– aqtis miReba xels Seuwyobs saqarTvelos demokratiuli institutebis gaZlierebas, korufciis Semcirebas da evroatlantikur integracias. rac mTavaria, daasanqcirebs reJimis mTavrobis warmomadgenlebs da qarTveli xalxis brZolas mCagvreli xelisuflebis winaaRmdeg mxars dauWers.
– sxvaTa Soris, mmarTveli partiis warmomadgenlebi imasac aRniSnaven, rom aSS-is axlandeli administracia da koleqtiuri dasavleTi `dif sTeiTTan~ brZolaSi damarcxdnen da saqarTvelo ar CaerTveba zesaxelmwifoTa TamaSebSi…
– kargad gvaxsovs, donald trampis inauguraciamde `qarTuli ocnebis~ ritorika radikalurad sxva iyo. moxda is, rasac vprognozirebdiT – TviTmarqvia xelisuflebam saerTo ena ver gamonaxa trampis axal administraciasTan. Sesabamisad, Tavis marTlebisTvis sxva Sansi ar darCaT, garda erTisa, rom amtkicon, TiTqos mTeli msoflio mowadinebulia, saqarTvelo CaiTrios did omSi da mxolod `qarTuli ocnebis~ xelisuflebis damsaxurebaa, rom Cvens qveyanaSi mSvidobaa.
– dabolos, ras ityviT aSS-is Suamavlobaze ruseT-ukrainis omis dasrulebisTvis, am procesebis rogor ganviTarebas elodebiT?
– donald trampis administracias (misive gancxadebebidan gamomdinare) ar aqvs interesi, daicvas ukrainisa da evropis usafrTxoeba. es am ukanasknelTa, da ara aSS-is, mTavari amocana unda iyos. TeTri saxlis interesis sferos CineTi, misgan momdinare safrTxe warmoadgens. amitom ukrainis Tema imdenad sayuradReboa, ramdenadac tramps surs, kremli oficialur pekins CamoaSoros. molaparakebis pirveli raundi uSedegod dasrulda. igive bedi eweva Semdgom raundebsac, Tu TeTri saxli ufro mkveTr nabijebs ar gadadgams oficialur moskovTan mimarTebaSi. putins xels ar aZlevs omis dasruleba, Sesabamisad, Tu mSvidobis damyareba mxolod mis nebaze iqneba damokidebuli, molaparakebis procesi usasrulod gaiweleba da SesaZloa, mere ukve TeTrma saxlma Tqvas uari Suamavlis rolis Sesrulebaze.